first I wil repost some info I have posted back in 2005 at another forum, starting a few days before Natalee Holloway died.

« on: May 19, 2005, 02:07:25 PM »

I have chosen to post this on Cloud Cover because I don't feel at ease with this information completely out in the open.

The following has been on my mind for a while and I didn't know what to do with it ( besides contacting the related person ).

I think I have to 'put' this in some peoples mind in order to avoid undesired things to happen or to downgrade the effects if the anticipated event would take place.

During my research on underlying patterns I have found out something very disturbing.

I expect a 911 related assault could take place in The Netherlands on July 25, 2005. On that day a Dutch celebrety is in danger and he could be killed. It's related to the high impact killings of Pim Fortuyn ( our would have been prime minister) and Theo van Gogh. It's 911 related on the patterns.

My wife actually showed me the way to the pattern when she said something out of he blue while looking at a Pope JP II's death related program early April. On that moment 911 was 'in the air' so to speak as the exit of JP I and JP II are 911 related as I posted elsewhere.
Sometimes my wife 'receives' precognitive info or dreams. The females in her family line are all 'sensitives'.

A few months ealier she already mentioned the importance of the date July 25, 2005 to me but she didn't knew why and I couldn't put my finger on it. While looking at the Pope she clearly received the person's name in question and he really is in danger.

I decided to determine triggerdates in the persons' life ( as he's a celebrety, there's enough info about him online). There has been an important high impact killing in the past and he is significant related to that victim. The 911 related pattern to that killing showed the date July 25, 2005! Symbolically it would be a top level 'Good against Evil' theme in our society.

My wife also warned me to be very carefull with this information because she sensed danger for me too if I wouldn't be cautious. It's the first time ever she said something like that to me.

It's a very famous person in The Netherlands and I decided to contact him. I explained how I came to my conclusions and he decided NOT to disregard my warnings. He will be very cautious on the dates I mentioned ( besides July 25, 2005 there are more dates on the patterns but I have reason to believe July 25 is the day).

I really felt the need to do something with the information and that's why I contacted the person. The man probably gets hundreds of emails a week from lunatics like me, but he will keep it in mind.

Keep this info in mind around July 25, 2005.

If someone feels the need to know the persons name and info about the underlying pattern, you can pm me.

« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2005, 11:19:08 AM »

Quote:

( besides July 25, 2005 there are more dates on the patterns but I have reason to believe July 25 is the day).

part of the email I've send to the person in danger, I've deleted the names:

"Symbolisch gezien kan een mislukte aanslag even belangrijk zijn als een geslaagde, als het belang ervan maar begepen wordt.
De moorden op Pim en Theo hebben een enorme impact gehad op onze samenleving. XXXX, jij bent iemand die ook een belagrijke rol vervuld
in onze samenleving, ook en met name op symbolisch niveau. Jij bent een symbolisch figuur die een rol kan spelen op bepaalde
patronen vanwege jouw vertegenwoordigende waarde van de "strijd tussen goed en kwaad". In dit verband wil ik nog 1 datum noemen.

Op of rond 22 juni 2005 is het 911 dagen sinds de moordaanslag op XXXXX. Met deze informatie in je achterhoofd kan het zijn
dat als er inderdaad iets zou gebeuren , de impact laag zou zijn vanwege het feit dat je op de hoogte bent van de onderliggende
patronen en symboliek."


translated:

"Symbolically seen, a failed attack can be just as important as a succeeded one, if the importance of it is understood.The assassinations of Pim and Theo have had an enormous impact on our society. XXXX, you are someone who's also fulfilling an important role in our society, particularly at symbolic level. You are a symbolic character which can play a role on certain patterns/levels because of your representing value of the "fight between good and evil". In this respect I want ask your attention for 1 other date. On or around 22 June 2005 it is 911 days ago since the assassination attack on XXXXX. With this information in your mind it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism"

now this is really very disturbing: On June 22:

Dutch arrest three in terror probe

The Dutch authorities have arrested three suspected terrorists -- two of them women -- in Amsterdam, the national prosecutor's office announced.

A 22-year old man was arrested late Wednesday together with two women aged 21 and 23. The Dutch authorities have not released their names.

All three are suspected of being part of a terrorist organisation, the prosecutor's office said Thursday.

Dutch Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner told the Dutch parliament Thursday that the latest arrests were linked to the arrest in London of 32-year-old Racid Belkacem on Wednesday.

Both Belkacem and the unidentified 22-year old suspect arrested in the Netherlands are suspected of being members of a terrorist organisation dubbed the Hofstad group -- a name used to designate The Hague.

Prosecutors believe the group conspired to kill controversial Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh, who was stabbed to death in Amsterdam in November, and Dutch politicians, including Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a woman lawmaker of Somali origin who lives under constant police protection.

Prosecutor's say that Van Gogh's suspected killer, Mohammed Bouyeri, had links with the Hofstad group and was even a leading figure but have so far only indicted him for the murder and not for presumed membership of a terrorist organisation.

At the time of his arrest the 22-year-old Amsterdam suspect, who is of Moroccan origin, had a loaded machine gun, a silencer and ammunition in his possession, according to prosecutors.

The three suspects will appear in court Friday in Rotterdam, where the national prosecutor's office is seated. At the hearing a judge will have to decide if the trio can be remanded in police custody for a longer period of time.

This latest arrest brings the total number of suspected Hofstad group members in custody to 13. Those detained prior to Thursday are all young men of North-African origin.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2005, 10:42:10 AM »

The trigger dates related to this possible assault, I have emailed them to the person in danger too:
( the main date could be July 25, the other triggers: )


July 2
July 17
July 23
July 26
August 1
August 17

On July 2 I saw the 111.777 reference which made me alert.
I had forgotten that July 2 was mentioned as a triggerdate here ( too much on my mind I guess) but I just saw it again because I was checking some things after I drove to my work today. During the drive I first saw 112.111 on the counter when I wanted to check my speed at the spot a lower speed is allowed. 112 is Dutch 911 and 111 is 555 awakenings trigger ofcourse. Than 112.112 followed , than 112.119 and the drive ended at 112.120

120 is HD tetrahedron key number.

I expect important related info and this newsitem made we think of this thread:

Monday July 11, 1:49 PM
Trial opens of suspected killer of Dutch filmmaker

The trial of Mohammed Bouyeri, a Moroccan Dutch national accused of the murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh, is to open at a high security court in Amsterdam.

Bouyeri, whom prosecutors describe as a radical Islamist, told his lawyer he did not want to be defended. He also refuses to participate in his trial voluntarily but the court has issued an order for him to be brought to the court regardless. Bouyeri's lawyer Peter Plasman told Dutch NOS public television that he will be in court but will not present a defence.

Born and raised in Amsterdam, the 27-year-old Bouyeri is a radical Islamist who hoped to die a martyr after killing controversial filmmaker Van Gogh, a distant relative of 19th century painter Vincent van Gogh.

Theo Van Gogh, who was also a well-known columnist noted for his virulent attacks on the multi-cultural society and Islam, was shot and stabbed in broad daylight while he cycled on the streets of Amsterdam on November 2, 2004. Several months before the murder he directed a short film called "Submission", critical of abuses against women under Islam.

A letter was left on his body riddled with Koranic quotations and threats to several Dutch politicians, including Somali-born lawmaker Ayaan Hirsi Ali who wrote the script for "Submission".

Bouyeri was arrested as he was attempting to flee the murder scene, according to police.

The assassination caused a surge in ethnic tension in the Netherlands and a wave of over 150 reprisal attacks on mosques, Islamic schools and churches followed.

Bouyeri is charged with murdering Van Gogh, attempted murder of several police officers and bystanders and obstructing the work of Hirsi Ali as a member of parliament. If convicted he could be sentenced to a maximum of life in prison. Under Dutch law a life sentence is applied in the literal sense.

Even though prosecutors have said that Bouyeri was "a leading figure" in a terrorist organization known as the Hofstad group he has not yet been charged in that connection as they do not have sufficient evidence.

Monday's trial will therefore only focus on Van Gogh's murder and related events.

Under the Dutch legal system, Bouyeri could be separately tried later for membership of a terrorist organization.

The court has set two days for the trial, with the possibility of extending into Wednesday.

Considering that Bouyeri refuses to let his attorney present a defence or make a statement, the trial could even be shorter than the two days originally planned.

It is not known whether Bouyeri plans to make a statement to the court. He has consistently refused to speak to police or answer questions from the court in earlier procedural hearings.

Van Gogh's mother, his ex-wife and two police officers are planning to give special so-called victim statements to the court.

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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2005, 03:11:22 PM »

3333 endtriggers for June 22 become 911 starttriggers for July 13

ergo June 22 and July 13 could give related events on emerging patterns

Wednesday July 13, 6:58 PM
Radical Muslim teenager arrested in Netherlands with bomb

Dutch authorities said they had arrested a 17-year-old Dutch boy who had hidden a home-made explosive device in his parent's home in Amsterdam.

The boy was arrested on Monday in the course of a police investigation into the Hofstad group, an alleged Islamic terrorist network.

Prosecution spokesman Wim de Bruin stressed that although police had tracked him down through its investigation of the Hofstad group the boy was not actually suspected of being a member of the network.

"He is being accused of actions to prepare an attack, terrorist or otherwise," De Bruin said.

"During a search of his home a makeshift explosive device was found in his room," the national prosecutor's office said in a statement.

The bomb consisted of a tube filled with gun powder, small bullets and a detonation mechanism, it said.

The Hofstad group, a name denoting The Hague, is described by prosecutors as a terrorist organization that planned attacks in the Netherlands and is linked to suspected terrorists arrested in Spain.

Fourteen people have been detained in the Netherlands on charges of belonging to the Hofstad group. Another Dutch national, Racid Belkacem, was arrested in London in late June on suspicion of belonging to the network.

A Syrian man suspected of being the group's spiritual leader is still on the run.

Mohammed Bouyeri, the suspected killer of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh who made a dramatic courtroom confession during his trial Tuesday, is said to be a leading figure in the group although he has not yet been formally charged in that case.

In the course of the Hofstad group investigation the boy, born and raised in the Netherlands of Dutch parents, came up.

"The investigation of the boy revealed that he had been active on the Internet for some time under a pseudonym and showed himself a supporter of radical Islamic beliefs. He was the mediator of a several (chat groups) that posted threatening texts, images and videos," prosecutors said.

The 17-year-old, who was not identified for legal reasons, will appear before a juvenile court judge on Thursday in Amsterdam.

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 10:07:55 AM »

U2 is in Amsterdam, last evening they gave their first performance.

The did the song " running to stand still" and they dedicated this song to the victims of the (911 related) 7-7-7 'London' bombings and also specifically to 2 Dutchmen who are mentioned in this thread: Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh

Just to keep in mind: The U2 crash on June 22 was a marker and the first date on a 7-4-7 based timewindow, with the 777 'London' bombings on the last day.

The high impact killings on Pim and Theo are 911 related ( 911 days in between).

The dedication of this song on July 13 could be significant and something to keep in mind

U2 - "running to stand still" lyrics:

And so she woke up
Woke up from where she was
Lying still
Said I gotta do something
About where we're going

Step on a steam train
Step out of the driving rain, maybe
Run from the darkness in the night
Singing ha, ah la la la de day
Ah la la la de day
Ah la la de day

Sweet the sin
Bitter taste in my mouth
I see seven towers
But I only see one way out

You got to cry without weeping
Talk without speaking
Scream without raising your voice

You know I took the poison
From the poison stream
Then I floated out of here
Singing...ha la la la de day
Ha la la la de day
Ha la la de day

She runs through the streets
With her eyes painted red
Under black belly of cloud in the rain
In through a doorway she brings me
White gold and pearls stolen from the sea
She is raging
She is raging
And the storm blows up in her eyes
She will...

Suffer the needle chill
She's running to stand...

Still.

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Somehow I feel very emotional while posting this

« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2005, 10:08:44 AM »

Just heard on the radio news: the supposed Syrian mastermind of the Theo van Gogh killing is jailed in Damascus. The man left our country on the morning of November 2, 2004, the day Theo was killed. He disappeared.

I believe it's not a coincidence that this happens during this timeframe, it's part of a Intelligently Designed pattern

« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2005, 10:54:02 AM »

August 1 was a possible related date.

The person in danger is crimereporter at the moment and he will join the next parliamentary elections as an independant candidate ( similarities with Pim Fortuyn )

On August 1 the police arrested 4 suspects of the killing of Gijs van Dam jr, son of a famous hasjdealer.

translated Dutch article by translation tool:

- the police force Kennemerland has arrested four persons in the study into death of Gijs of dam junior. Two of them still sit in jail. In the interest of the research the police force does no substantive communications concerning the identity of the suspects. Also concerning the suspicion that justice against them has, nothing has been announced. The 37 years old Gijs van dam junior was shot 28 May 2004 for its villa in Zandvoort. A man with a machine gun shot the disabled Gijs van dam jr in the presence of its family by the head. That happened at the moment on which helped its girlfriend of dam in the car. The son of the notorious from Amsterdam hasjhandelaar Gijs of dam senior person was in December 2002 already once the victim of a liquidation attempt. Someone fired him then on the Gelderlandplein, whereupon he in a role chair ended up. The reason a dragging conflict would be for a party drugs. Contacts with Yugoslavian offenders him will have eventually the muffler has been put on. Monday night in an interview with the from Amsterdam television sender AT5 that, told of dam senior person, the police force its zoon a month for its dead will have warned for a possible attack. ' ' they knew of it. How it is then possible that them the attack not have been possible prevent. They must something has heard.'

in Dutch:

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2005, 10:54:38 AM »

( I don't use the names of the person in danger and the victim of the high impact killing because of privacy/safety reasons )


These triggerdates I've posted here:

"The trigger dates related to this possible assault, I have emailed them to the person in danger too:
( the main date could be July 25, the other triggers: )


July 2
July 17
July 23
July 26
August 1
August 17"

Are based on this high impact killing I wrote about in this thread:

"I decided to determine triggerdates in the persons' life ( as he's a celebrity, there's enough info about him online). There has been an important high impact killing in the past and he is significant related to that victim. The 911 related pattern to that killing showed the date July 25, 2005! Symbolically it would be a top level 'Good against Evil' theme in our society."

Now these people arrested on August 1 for the killing of Gijs van Dam jr could be playing a significant role.

Gijs van Dam jr was a friend too of the victim (mr'x') of this high impact killing ( this killing is the main event on which the triggerdates are based). Gijs said in interviews that he had learned everything from mr 'x', he considered him more or less as a mentor or father figure.

That these 4 people were arrested on August 1 is very important. I don't say that the date was deliberately chosen or that the people involved are consciously aware.

I'm just saying that the 4 people arrested for the van Dam killing, are responsible for the death of mr 'x'.

That's what the patterns show

The killing of mr'x' has never been solved but I dare to say that:

One or more of these 4 men are responsible for the killing of mr'x', or they are related to the responsible people for both killings.

As the person in danger is a crimereporter at the moment and probably also investigating the killing of his friend mr 'x', it could be that his own situation has become less dangerous with these arrests

« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2005, 04:33:26 PM »

I think there were indications something could happen tomorrow, to justify today's police actions:

Friday, 14 October 2005

Dutch police make terror arrests

Police in The Netherlands have made seven anti-terror arrests in three cities, as security forces ringed government offices in The Hague.
Six men and a woman were detained in raids in The Hague, Amsterdam and nearby Almere, the national prosecutor's office said.

They include one man recently acquitted of planning terror attacks.

Police did not comment on reports of gunshots in The Hague during Friday's arrest operation.

Riot police moved in to strengthen security at the Binnenhof castle in the city where Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and others have offices.

The BBC's Geraldine Coughlan reports that the arrests come a day after renewed threats against two members of parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Geert Wilders.

Both are outspoken critics of radical Islam.

Rearrested

Among those held on Friday was Samir Azzouz, a Dutch teenager of Moroccan origin who had been acquitted in April of plotting attacks on Amsterdam airport, government buildings and a nuclear reactor.

"He is suspected of preparing attacks, together with other persons, on several politicians and government buildings," the prosecutor's office said on Friday.

No details of the other six suspects, said to be aged between 18 and 30, were immediately given.

The Netherlands has been on a terror alert since the London bombings in July.

Police were injured by a hand grenade in The Hague last year when they arrested two terror suspects following the murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh.

BBC

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November 2, 2004 van Gogh killing - Saturday October 15, 2005

creates a 2 times base element 174 in the Design :

2 times 174 = 348 days.

« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2005, 09:54:15 AM »

The struggle between good and evil is getting momentum in our society.

Our celebrity presented his political program a few days ago, with which he wants to join the next elections. He presented 55 ideas of change in Den Haag ( maybe he is inspired by the patterns I told him about , but seriously, it's probably something subconscious.)

At the same day there was a high impact killing in the 'underworld', a former top lawyer of the Dutch organized crime factions, hiiting the 911 based trigger patterns I'm monitoring as a '3 dayss off' balancing and/or intensifier.

and exactly on the 911 based spot:

Killed director van Gogh honoured

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This killing last year was part of a 911 based pattern started with the killing of politician Pim Fortuyn.

With that fact, November 2 becomes a 911 based triggerdate

Yesterday, on November 2 John Mieremet was killed in Thailand.

He was one of the major players in the organized crime scene in The Netherlands.

« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2006, 01:29:08 PM »

Last year, I have told the person in danger that my research indicated who's probably responsible for the death of his friend mr.X

Just heard it on the radionews: it was indeed the person I had identified last year!

« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2006, 01:43:14 PM »

Quote:

'Holleeder liet 25 liquidaties uitvoeren' AMSTERDAM - De vermoorde vastgoedmagnaat Willem Endstra heeft in 2003 verklaard dat de groepering rond topcrimineel Willem Holleeder 'zo'n 25 liquidaties heeft laten plegen'. Het zou onder meer gaan om Heineken-ontvoerder Cor van Hout, Sam Klepper, Jan Femer, George Plieger, Gijs van Dam junior en Magdi Barsoum.

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Mr.X = Cor van Hout

Holleeder is responsible for the death of both Gijs van Dam Junior en Cor van Hout (mr.X), as anticipated in this thread.

It seemed very unlikely that Holleeder would have been responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout as they were considered to be friends. They kidnapped (with some others) beer millionaire Alfred Heineken in 1983.

« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2006, 01:20:57 PM »

First attempt to kill Cor van Hout:

March 27, 1996

Holleeder arrested

January 29-30, 2006

3595 days or

16 Venus years or 2 * 1111 * Phi Golden Mean.

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karma unveiled

« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2006, 01:26:20 AM »

Holleeder arrested 'to prevent gangland hit'

1 February 2006

AMSTERDAM — Police arrested former Heineken kidnapper and suspected racketeer Willem Holleeder on Sunday in part to protect him from assassination, it was reported on Wednesday.

Newspaper 'De Telegraaf', which has frequent scoops about events in the Dutch underworld, said Holleeder has been shadowed in recent weeks by a team of hired guns from the former Yugoslavia.

The killers, the paper said, were waiting only for the right moment to strike. Holleeder managed to avoid to attempts on his life, 'De Telegraaf' said. On these two occasions Holleeder rang the police on seeing men waiting for him in a rented van. Holleeder felt the police were being too passive about protecting

him.


Amsterdammer Holleeder first came to public attention in 1983 when he and a childhood friend, Cor van Hout, were part of the gang that kidnapped beer magnate Freddy Heineken.

Holleeder and Van Hout were eventually captured in France and sentenced to 11 years by a Dutch court. Both men were freed in the early 1990s and allegedly rejoined the ranks of Amsterdam's underworld.

In 2002 'Quote' magazine ran a story about property tycoon Willem Endstra, the reputed bank of the underworld. The magazine claimed Holleeder was Endstra's enforcer.
The two men later fell out and Endstra was shot dead outside his office in Amsterdam on 17 May 2004.

Police arrested Holleeder and a number of Dutch and 'Yugoslavs' on 29 January this year on suspicion of extorting money from Endstra and other real estate dealers. The police emphasised Holleeder was not held in relation to Endstra's murder.

Several key figures in the Amsterdam underworld, including Van Hout, have been shot dead in recent years. Media speculation about Holleeder’s possible involvement in some of these murders has never been substantiated.