updated October 9

First you have to read the posts on this page about Deep Impact / Epoxi spaceship expressing Pi in space:

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Read carefully, this is so profound....when intuition speaks: Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005 Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008. next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010. As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby? Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design? fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events: Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi is the same as: Pi * difference between: Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit and Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby or in numbers: July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days 1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi or 1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!! This is so beautiful and fundamental.

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So Nasa seems to choose the Transits as 'communication' marker. We have just seen the Pi connection expressed by the Deep Impact/ Epoxi spacecraft -Moon-Earth Transit and the 2 comet encounters with Temple I and Hartlet, on May 29, 2008, You can call this an 'artificial' transit with Deep Impact taking these awsome Transit images. Deep Impact and Transits....... expressing Pi on May 29, 2008..... Deep Impact was launched on January 12, 2005 That was during another Transit...... and also here we have a camera out there in space to watch.... Transit of Mercury from Mars A transit of Mercury across the Sun as seen from Mars takes place when the planet Mercury passes directly between the Sun and Mars, obscuring a small part of the Sun's disc for an observer on Mars. During a transit, Mercury can be seen from Mars as a small black disc moving across the face of the Sun. taking pictures or 'communicating'? The Mars Rovers Spirit and Opportunity could have observed the transit on January 12, 2005 (from 14:45 UTC to 23:05 UTC); however the only camera available for this had insufficient resolution. Ephemeris data generated by JPL Horizons indicates that Opportunity would be able to observe the transit from the start until local sunset at about 19:23 UTC, while Spirit would be able to observe it from local sunrise at about 19:38 UTC until the end of the transit. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum! Well you might think...... 2 of these Transits.....its all just a coincidence.....who cares?......let's sleep a night and forget about it, tomorrow a next day....... January 13, 2005 What's the news today? are you kidding, another Transit? Transit of Earth from Saturn A transit of Earth across the Sun as seen from Saturn takes place when the planet Earth passes directly between the Sun and Saturn, obscuring a small part of the Sun's disc for an observer on Saturn. During a transit, Earth can be seen from Saturn as a small black disc moving across the face of the sun. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum! Well, I hear you thinking...... that's far away and it happens maybe 4 times in a century or so, and ofcourse we are not present this time. No? Yes! Naturally, no one has ever seen a transit of Earth from Saturn, nor is this likely to happen in any foreseeable future. The last one took place on January 13-14, 2005 -- though the Cassini probe was present in the Saturn system, it was also the day of the Huygens probe mission. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum! Huygens separated from the Cassini orbiter on December 25, 2004, and landed on Titan on January 14, 2005 near the Xanadu region. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum! It touched down on land during the Transit unfortunately also here no pictures........again....( what a fool believes....) Furthermore, the angular resolution needed to capture the occultation was near the limits of Cassini's imaging subsystem, to say nothing of the concerns of pointing the probe's camera directly at the Sun. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum! Oh, and its all just a coincidence ofcourse...........

In a few days from now we will again experience a Deep Impact in space, on October 9, 2009 :

"On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009. "

First thought in relation to this Impact on the moon is of course the Deep Impact on comet Templ I on July 4, 2005.

July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown

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Sources: Navy to shoot down failed satellite Thursday February 21

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So we have 3 impacts in space, all manmade: Temple I, satellite and Moon.

expressing the Golden Mean Phi

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.

new date added:

November 11, 2009 - Ariel Sharon

LCROSS Viewer's Guide

Oct 06, 2009
Just imagine. A spaceship plunges out of the night sky, hits the ground and explodes. A plume of debris billows back into the heavens, leading your eye to a second ship in hot pursuit. Four minutes later, that one hits the ground, too. It's raining spaceships!
Put on your hard hat and get ready for action, because on Friday, Oct. 9th, what you just imagined is really going to happen--and you can have a front row seat.

The impact site is crater Cabeus near the Moon's south pole. NASA is guiding the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite ("LCROSS" for short) and its Centaur booster rocket into the crater's floor for a spectacular double-impact designed to "unearth" signs of lunar water.

There are two ways to watch the show.

First, turn on NASA TV. The space agency will broadcast the action live from the Moon, with coverage beginning Friday morning at 3:15 am PDT (10:15 UT). The first hour or so, pre-impact, will offer expert commentary, status reports from mission control, camera views from the spacecraft, and telemetry-based animations.

The actual impacts commence at 4:30 am PDT (11:30 UT). The Centaur rocket will strike first, transforming 2200 kg of mass and 10 billion joules of kinetic energy into a blinding flash of heat and light. Researchers expect the impact to throw up a plume of debris as high as 10 km.

Close behind, the LCROSS mothership will photograph the collision for NASA TV and then fly right through the debris plume. Onboard spectrometers will analyze the sunlit plume for signs of water (H2O), water fragments (OH), salts, clays, hydrated minerals and assorted organic molecules.

"If there's water there, or anything else interesting, we'll find it," says Tony Colaprete of NASA Ames, the mission's principal investigator.

Next comes the mothership's own plunge. Four minutes after the Centaur "lands," the 700 kg LCROSS satellite will strike nearby, sending another, smaller debris plume over the rim of Cabeus.

The Hubble Space Telescope, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), and hundreds of telescopes great and small on Earth will scrutinize the two plumes, looking for signs of water and the unexpected.

And that brings us to the second way to see the show: Grab your telescope.

"We expect the debris plumes to be visible through mid-sized backyard telescopes-10 inches and larger," says Brian Day of NASA/Ames. Day is an amateur astronomer and the Education and Public Outreach Lead for LCROSS. "The initial explosions will probably be hidden behind crater walls, but the plumes will rise high enough above the crater's rim to be seen from Earth."

The Pacific Ocean and western parts of North America are favored with darkness and a good view of the Moon at the time of impact. Hawaii is the best place to be, with Pacific coast states of the USA a close second. Any place west of the Mississippi River, however, is a potential observing site.

When the plumes emerge from Cabeus, they will be illuminated by sunshine streaming over the polar terrain. The crater itself will be in the dark, however, permanently shadowed by its own walls. "That's good," says Day. "The crater's shadows will provide a dark backdrop for viewing the sunlit plumes."

In an earlier stage of mission planning, scientists hoped to strike a crater closer to the Moon's limb so that the plumes would billow out against the dark night sky, providing maximum contrast for observers on Earth. However, recent data from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, Japan's Kaguya spacecraft and India's Chandrayaan-1 probe altered those plans.

"We've just learned that Cabeus may contain relatively-rich deposits of hydrogen and/or frozen water," says Colaprete. "Cabeus is not as close to the lunar limb as we would have liked, but it seems to offer us the best chance of hitting H2O."

The LCROSS team hopes many people-amateurs and professionals alike-will observe and photograph the plumes. "The more eyes the better," says Day. "Remember, we've never done this before. We're not 100% sure what will happen, and big surprises are possible."

Veteran amateur astronomer Kurt Fisher has prepared a 13 MB slideshow to help fellow amateurs locate and witness the plumes: download it . There is also an online LCROSS observer's group where novices can read introductory articles and chat with other observers.

"This is a wonderful opportunity for citizen scientists to join NASA in the process of discovery," says Day, who urges observers to submit their images to the LCROSS Citizen Science Site. "It's a great adventure, and anyone can participate."

Imagine that.

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updated october 9

Earthquakes rock South Pacific

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(CNN) -- Three major earthquakes struck within an hour and 10 minutes Thursday morning near Vanuatu in the South Pacific, prompting a tsunami warning that was quickly lifted.

They were part of series of nine moderate-to-major quakes that rattled the region in just over four hours.

The first quake, with a magnitude of 7.8, struck at 9:03 a.m. (6:03 p.m. ET) at a depth of 35 km (22 miles) and an epicenter 295 km (180 miles) north-northwest of Luganville, Espiritu Santo, Vanuatu, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

A second quake, with a magnitude of 7.7, struck 15 minutes later at the same depth and an epicenter of 340 km (210 miles) north-northwest of Luganville.

The third quake, with a magnitude of 7.1, struck at 10:13 a.m. (7:13 p.m. ET) at about the same depth and an epicenter of 280 km (175 miles) north-northwest of Luganville.

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center issued and then quickly lifted a regional tsunami warning and watch for parts of the Pacific near the first earthquake's epicenter.

The first data from a buoy at Luganville on Vanuatu detected a tsunami wave of 4 centimeters (1.6 inches) at Luganville on Vanuatu, said Victor Sardina, a geophysicist with the center.

A second pulse of the wave was 10 centimeters (3.9 inches), he said. "It looks like a very small wave," he told CNN in a telephone interview.

There were no immediate reports of damage or injuries, Sardina said.

The two major quakes that followed the first one were aftershocks, Sardina said. When there's a big quake, the pattern they follow is after the first quake, a second and then a third," he said. "Those are obviously related," he said.

At the Hotel Le Paris in Noumea, the capital of New Caledonia, the manager told CNN that she felt the shake but had not seen any damage.

On Espiritu Santo Island in Vanuatu, dive-shop owner Rehan Syed said he was aware of no reports of damages or injuries.

"We have the sun out and winds are pretty normal," he told CNN. "Pretty cloudy skies but nothing more than that."

"We felt the quake (my chair and my keyboard moved) but did not take too much notice as we live with shakes every week," said John Nicholls of Vanuatu Hotels in an e-mail.

At the New Caledonia Hotel, guests were evacuated to higher ground, General Manager Torani George told CNN, adding that he had felt "nothing, nothing at all."

"There is no panic, nothing," he said.

NASA set to crash on the moon -- twice

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(CNN) -- Two U.S. spacecraft are set to crash on the moon Friday. On purpose. And we're all invited to watch.

NASA's Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite is scheduled to drop its Centaur upper-stage rocket on the lunar surface at 7:31 a.m. ET.

NASA hopes the impact will kick up enough dust to help the LCROSS probe find the presence of water in the moon's soil. Four minutes later, the LCROSS will follow through the debris plume, collecting and relaying data back to Earth before crashing into the Cabeus crater near the moon's south pole.

The LCROSS is carrying spectrometers, near-infrared cameras, a visible camera and a visible radiometer. These instruments will help NASA scientists analyze the plume of dust -- more than 250 metric tons' worth -- for water vapor.

The orbiting Hubble Space Telescope and NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will watch, and photograph, the collisions. And hundreds of telescopes on Earth also will be focused on the two plumes.

NASA is encouraging amateur astronomers to join the watch party.

"We expect the debris plumes to be visible through midsized backyard telescopes -- 10 inches and larger," said Brian Day at NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, California. Day is an amateur astronomer who is leading education and public outreach for the LCROSS mission.

Ames will host "Impact Night," an event with music and food starting Thursday evening before a live transmission of the lunar impact will be shown around 4:30 a.m. PT Friday. Other science observatories and amateur astronomy clubs across the country will be hosting similar events.

"The initial explosions will probably be hidden behind crater walls, but the plumes will rise high enough above the crater's rim to be seen from Earth," Day said. The Cabeus crater lies in permanent shadow, making observations inside the crater difficult.

The impacts will not be visible to the naked eye or through binoculars. If you don't have a telescope, or you live in areas where daylight will obscure the viewing, NASA TV will broadcast the crashes live. Coverage begins at 6:15 a.m. ET Friday.

The two main components of the LCROSS mission are the shepherding spacecraft and the Centaur upper stage rocket. The spacecraft will guide the rocket to its crash site.

Data from previous space missions have revealed trace amounts of water in lunar soil. The LCROSS mission seeks a definitive answer to the question of how much water is present. NASA has said it believes water on the moon could be a valuable resource in the agency's quest to explore the solar system.

LCROSS launched with the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter aboard an Atlas V rocket from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on June 18.

Friday's lunar impact will be visible best in areas that are still dark, particularly in the Western United States.

The Fremont Peak Observatory near Monterey, California, will open up its doors early Friday to allow people to watch the event through its 30-inch telescope. It's "the most accessible public telescope in the [San Francisco] Bay Area," said Dave Samuels, the observatory's vice president.

So far, at least 50 people have signed up, Samuels said, noting that number is "really phenomenal, especially on a school night [and] work night. It's really incredible."

Students, retirees and board members are among those scheduled to attend.

Samuels said a special low-light, infrared video camera will be hooked up to the telescope so that the audience can watch the rocket strike the moon. The observatory is in Fremont Peak State Park, which is on a list of California parks that could close because of recent budget cuts.

Samuels said he hopes Friday's event triggers more interest in astronomy, particularly among young children, and possibly help the park to stay open.

"It's things like this that get kids interested [in science]," he said. "It will probably be a defining moment for them."

Darrick Gray, who teaches atmospheric sciences at Ray-Pec High School near Kansas City, Missouri, said he's planning to take 17 students -- all juniors and seniors -- to watch the lunar impact .

"This is truly a once-in-a-lifetime thing," Gray said. He said he's arranged for a school bus to pick up the kids early Friday and take the class to the Powell Observatory in Louisburg, Kansas.

"It's weather-dependent; we've got rain right now," Gray said. "It's going to be a call I make at 5 a.m."

Gray, who is also the director of the Astronomical Society of Kansas City, said his students will try to take photos of the impact through the eyepiece of their telescopes. He said he hopes the event will influence his students to pursue careers in science.

"Being as we do live here in Missouri, we're away from the hub [of astronomy]," Gray said. "We're not in Florida, we're not in Texas, we're not in Silicon Valley -- it's not something they're used to seeing.

"So any time you can show them something that's never been done, and they say, 'Oh this is pretty cool,' I think they buy into that."

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The Apollo 11 mission was the first human spaceflight to land on the Moon. Launched on July 16, 1969, it carried Mission Commander Neil Alden Armstrong, Command Module Pilot Michael Collins, and Lunar Module Pilot Edwin Eugene 'Buzz' Aldrin, Jr. On July 20, Armstrong and Aldrin became the first humans to land on the Moon,

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With Earth at same orbital position as during the timeframe around the first humans to land on the moon, exactly 25 years later:

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 (SL9, formally designated D/1993 F2) was a comet that broke apart and collided with Jupiter in July 1994, providing the first direct observation of an extraterrestrial collision of solar system objects.

In July 1992 the orbit of Shoemaker-Levy 9 passed within Jupiter's Roche limit, and Jupiter's tidal forces acted to pull the comet apart. SL9 was later observed as a series of fragments ranging up to 2 km (1.2 mi) in diameter. These fragments collided with Jupiter's southern hemisphere between July 16 and July 22, 1994, at a speed of approximately 60 km/s (37 mi/s). The prominent scars from the impacts were more easily visible than the Great Red Spot and persisted for many months.

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Well, nice coincidence you might think. Such an impact on a planet hapens only once in a lifetime, or at least its just a coincidence that Earth is at same orbital position as during the first moon landing mission.

Coincidence?

exactly 15 years later, with Earth again at same orbital position as during the first moon landing mission:

July 20th, 2009
Jupiter Impact Confirmed

As we reported yesterday, an amateur astronomer snapped evidence of an impact on Jupiter. Now, NASA has confirmed the black spot on the giant gas planet is in fact an impact and not just a weather-related disturbance. And Anthony Wesley has now made the biggest observation of his life.

This new impact occurred exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, and as the celebrations of the Apollo 11 moon landings are taking place.

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So today mankind will cause another Impact in space.
Just like Deep Impact on comet Temple I on July 4, 2005, we will crash on the moon twice today October 9.

I have talked about the Pi correlations that are expressed with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission and I recommend to reread previous posts aboout this Pi-connection.

Its the Golden Mean Phi that unveils the connectedness between these manmade impacts in space, at Phi point in between these 2 impacts we have seen another manmade Impact in space: the satellite shootdown of February 21, 2008.

I wrote on October 3:

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So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission. It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'. This lunar impact is intelligently determined the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than? if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality. If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers: The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event. NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent' message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.

On October 7 I added:

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I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check. I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design. June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971 a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon: On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum!

So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The signifigance of Earth's orbital position at this Phi point ( around february 2 ) in relation to the 'communication' that is taking place, the Tunguska event as warning, becomes clear in 2003: its the same orbital position of Earth when spaceshuttle Columbia desintegrated on reentry, on February 1, 2003.

Earth's orbital positions are marking the 'communication' that is taking place. The Phi point between the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908 and the Deep Impact on comet Temple I unveils where this 'Tunguska warning' is aimed at:

July 21, 1945

US President Harry S. Truman approves order for atomic bombs to be used.

So This Tunguska event seems to be a warning not tu use nuclear weapons and to stay out of space with activities like the impact on a comet. I have already spoken alot of these correlations but now it appears that there's much more 'confirmative' to this 'communication'.

Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the decission to use nuclear weapons and Deep Impact on Temple I

AND

Tunguska is Golden Mean connected to the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission and todays double Impact on the moon

AND

these 2 manmade impacts in space are Golden Mean connected via another manmade impact in space: the satellite shootdown.

But that's not all

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

Its the same orbital postion of Earth as during the Apollo 11 moonlanding mission.
The Apollo 11 mission was the first human spaceflight to land on the Moon. Launched on July 16, 1969, it carried Mission Commander Neil Alden Armstrong, Command Module Pilot Michael Collins, and Lunar Module Pilot Edwin Eugene 'Buzz' Aldrin, Jr. On July 20, Armstrong and Aldrin became the first humans to land on the Moon,

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So we have the decission to drop the nuclear bomb and the first humans on the moon with Earth at the same orbital position.

Tunguska in relation to Earth is like Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 in relation to Jupiter, in the 'communication' that is taking place.

With Earth at same orbital position as during the timeframe around July 20, with this nuclear decission and the first humans to land on the moon, exactly 25 years later:

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 (SL9, formally designated D/1993 F2) was a comet that broke apart and collided with Jupiter in July 1994, providing the first direct observation of an extraterrestrial collision of solar system objects.

In July 1992 the orbit of Shoemaker-Levy 9 passed within Jupiter's Roche limit, and Jupiter's tidal forces acted to pull the comet apart. SL9 was later observed as a series of fragments ranging up to 2 km (1.2 mi) in diameter. These fragments collided with Jupiter's southern hemisphere between July 16 and July 22, 1994, at a speed of approximately 60 km/s (37 mi/s). The prominent scars from the impacts were more easily visible than the Great Red Spot and persisted for many months.

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Well, nice coincidence you might think. Such an impact on a planet hapens only once in a lifetime, or at least its just a coincidence that Earth is at same orbital position as during the first moon landing mission and the decission to use atomic bombs.

Coincidence?

exactly 15 years later, with Earth again at the same orbital position again:

July 20th, 2009
Jupiter Impact Confirmed

As we reported yesterday, an amateur astronomer snapped evidence of an impact on Jupiter. Now, NASA has confirmed the black spot on the giant gas planet is in fact an impact and not just a weather-related disturbance. And Anthony Wesley has now made the biggest observation of his life.

This new impact occurred exactly 15 years after the first impacts by the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, and as the celebrations of the Apollo 11 moon landings are taking place.

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The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.

We talk about April 13-14, 2007:

A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.

Mars Global Surveyor

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Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter

Published: April 14, 2007

Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.

Instead, an errant computer command five months earlier had been placed in the wrong location of the computer memory for the spacecraft. That, in effect, implanted a fatal defect in the spacecraft, disabling a safety feature to prevent the solar panels from rotating too far and mangling its ability to communicate with Earth in case of a mishap.

Last Nov. 2, a run-of-the-mill command to the Global Surveyor set off the latent time bomb. Because the safety feature had been disabled, the solar panels rotated as far as they could, causing the spacecraft to “think” erroneously that the panels had jammed.

In its last 13-minute contact, the Global Surveyor reported numerous alarms to mission controllers but gave no indication that it was in immediate danger.

As the spacecraft tried to recover, it ended up in an orientation such that the Sun was shining directly on a battery, causing it to overheat. The Global Surveyor misinterpreted that signal, sensing that it had overcharged the battery and stopped charging its other battery, as well.

Meanwhile, because the June error caused the craft’s antenna to point in the wrong direction, mission controllers on Earth could not get in touch with the craft again.

“It was a sort of unfortunate concatenation of events,” said Dolly Perkins, deputy director-technical of the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., who was chairwoman of the review board.

Within half a day, the Global Surveyor batteries drained dead.

The chain of events leading to the craft’s doom started in September 2005 on a routine technical update. For redundancy, the information was copied to two separate locations in the computer memory, but at different times with slightly different values. That led to a slight inconsistency, and when the engineers tried to repair that in June, they caused the bigger problem.

The review board said that the mission team had properly followed its procedures, but that the procedures were inadequate and that more thorough checks of its commands could have found the errors before they were sent to the spacecraft.

The Mars Global Surveyor was launched in 1996 and arrived at Mars 10 months later. After gradually moving into a circular orbit, its science mission started in March 1999 and was to last one Martian year, or 687 Earth days, until January 2001. But the spacecraft continued operating long after that, sending back more than 240,000 photographs.

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The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart.

Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor

the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars

NASA crashes rocket, satellite into moon in search for water

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(CNN) -- NASA crashed a rocket and a satellite into the moon's surface on Friday morning, a $79 million mission that could determine if there is water on the moon.

NASA televised live images of the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, as it crashed into a crater near the moon's south pole.

NASA officials said it appeared to be a "successful impact."

Minutes before its impact, the satellite guided a rocket into the Cabeus crater in an effort to kick up enough dust to help the LCROSS find whether there is any water in the moon's soil.

The Centaur upper-stage rocket impacted the moon shortly after 7:30 a.m. ET, and the satellite followed it four minutes later. Watch as NASA reacts to "successful" crash »

The LCROSS carried spectrometers, near-infrared cameras, a visible camera and a visible radiometer to help NASA scientists analyze the plume of dust -- more than 250 metric tons' worth -- for water vapor.

The orbiting Hubble Space Telescope and NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter watched and photographed the impacts. Meanwhile, hundreds of telescopes on Earth focused on the moon, hoping to catch a glimpse of two plumes.

The Cabeus crater lies in permanent shadow, making observations inside the crater difficult.

NASA Deputy Administrator Lori Garver, who watched the event at a public event at the Newseum in Washington, said there was a lot of interest in the NASA mission.

"We had families ... literally coming in off the street" to watch, she said on NASA TV. iReport: Did you watch?

NASA had encouraged amateur astronomers to join the watch parties.

"We expect the debris plumes to be visible through midsized backyard telescopes -- 10 inches and larger," said Brian Day at NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, California. Day is an amateur astronomer who is leading education and public outreach for the LCROSS mission.

Ames Research Center -- which led the mission -- hosted an all-night event, featuring music and food before broadcasting NASA's live transmission of the lunar impact.

Other science observatories and amateur astronomy clubs across the country hosted similar events.

"The initial explosions will probably be hidden behind crater walls, but the plumes will rise high enough above the crater's rim to be seen from Earth," Day said.

Data from previous space missions have revealed trace amounts of water in lunar soil. The LCROSS mission seeks a definitive answer to the question of how much water is present. NASA has said it believes water on the moon could be a valuable resource in the agency's quest to explore the solar system.

LCROSS launched with the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter aboard an Atlas V rocket from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on June 18.

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a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon: On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
The interior of the crater has bright mounds, and a bright ejecta blanket surrounds the exterior of the crater. Bright rays are observed to extend across the surface for more than 1.5 km (0.9 miles) from the impact.

This LROC image was taken when the sun was relatively high in the sky, bringing out subtle differences in reflectivity or brightness. Scientists noted the unusual occurrence of dark and bright rays when the Apollo 16 spacecraft observed the site.

The upcoming LCROSS impact into the crater Cabeus will also be used to probe the lunar subsurface. The Apollo 14 impact was used to send vibrations through the surface to help scientists study the internal structure of the lunar crust, whereas the LCROSS impact will throw debris up into space so a trailing spacecraft and Earth-based telescopes can analyze its composition.

The Apollo impact velocity was at 5,682 mph. The booster component weighed 30,835 lbs at the time of impact, and the impact energy was equivalent to just over 10 tons of TNT.

A seismometer placed in 1969 by Apollo 12 astronauts recorded the vibrations, which lasted for about three hours. The LCROSS impactor (the upper stage of a Centaur rocket) is much smaller than the S-IVB

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The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.

After I had written my previous post and crossposted it at several forums, I wanted the check the news about this moon impact so I want to space daily and guess what:

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I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check. I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design. June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971 a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon: On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971. Only registered users can see links on this forum! Register or Login on forum!

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.



The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.

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Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

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fundamental truth

next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.

We talk about April 13-14, 2007:

A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.

Mars Global Surveyor

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Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter

Published: April 14, 2007

Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.

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The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart. Launched on November 7, 1996, last received message November 5, 2006.

Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor

the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars

updated moon impact



Pallas is 'Peter Pan' space rock
Hubble's data makes it possible to discern surface features, including what appears to be a big impact crater.

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Sunday, 11 October 2009

The Hubble telescope has provided new insight on 2 Pallas, one of the largest asteroids in the Solar System.

The nearly 600km-wide rock is an example of an object that started out on the process of becoming a planet but never grew up into the real thing.

Researchers have published a 3D model of the grapefruit-shaped mini-world in Science magazine.

Hubble's data makes it possible to discern surface features, including what appears to be a big impact crater.

The new information is expected to help scientists better understand how planets evolve in their earliest phases.

"Pallas is a unique piece of the puzzle of how our Solar System formed," said Britney Schmidt, of the University of California, Los Angeles, who led the observations.

Layering process

Pallas resides some 400 million km from the Sun, in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter.

It was the second object discovered in the main asteroid belt (hence the name, 2 Pallas), in 1802.

Only Ceres is wider (950km diameter). Another asteroid, Vesta, has a narrower girth but is more massive than Pallas.


In 3D: Scientists suspect the presence of an impact crater (ringed)

All three can be considered "protoplanets", an assessment reinforced in the case of Pallas by the latest Hubble observations.

Theory holds that planets grow from aggregations of the dust and rock found circling new-born stars.

Collisions between clumps of material produce progressively bigger objects.

Eventually, a few will become large enough, and hot enough, to start to undergo differentiation - a process of layering in which the densest materials move to the centre of the object to form a core.

In the case of Pallas, this process appears to have initiated, but its slightly irregular shape suggests it never quite moved to completion.

"Whether you could form a core is something we can't really determine with these observations, but Pallas is big enough and round enough that it's very possible that its interior started to separate out," Ms Schmidt told BBC News.

"Ceres is perfectly round and so there's a really good chance that that happened. For Pallas, it may be just that this process got started but never finished."

Wet history

Dark features in the Hubble pictures indicate the presence of hydrated minerals on the surface of the asteroid.

If Pallas formed early in the asteroid belt, it would probably have incorporated large quantities of water-ice.

As the rock heated up, this water would have melted. Not only would this have aided differentiation but it also would have altered the silicate rock to produce the type of mineralogical signal obvious today.

It was highly unlikely, though, that Pallas got hot enough to melt silicate rock, said the California researcher.

The presence even now of a lot of water-ice in the asteroid might help to explain its relatively low density (2,400-2,800kg per cubic metre), she added.

The Science paper describing the Hubble observations includes a 3D representation of Pallas. This was built up from a series of snapshots of the asteroid's outline as it rotated in the view of the telescope.

It reveals an intriguing depression in the southern hemisphere which Schmidt's team interprets as a possible impact crater. It is large - about 240km across. It is also near dark terrain which could be material ejected or altered by a collision.

Pallas is known to share orbital characteristics with a group of rocks that could have been blown off the asteroid. The largest of this "family" is called Ioffe and has a diameter of 22km. It is entirely possible Ioffe originated in the assumed crater.

Nasa has sent a spacecraft to the asteroid belt to visit Ceres and Vesta. The Dawn probe will arrive first at the smaller of the two objects in 2011.

Pallas, unfortunately, is not on the itinerary.

But Britney Schmidt believes interest in the asteroids and what they represent can only grow and is hopeful that her protoplanet could one day become a target for a space mission.

"We are really changing our perspective on these objects. When you say asteroid people don't tend to think of big, dynamic, evolved bodies; but that's probably what we have in the case of [Ceres, Vesta and Pallas].

"I'm trying to evolve people's thinking, taking them from 'big rocks to little planets'.

"It's also timely, with public discussion about Pluto and what makes - or doesn't make - a planet. The public are so interested in that."

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NASA puzzles over 'invisible' moon impact

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09 October 2009

In the final minutes of its plunge toward the moon, NASA's LCROSS spacecraft spotted the brief infrared flash of a rocket booster hitting the lunar surface just ahead of it – and it even saw heat from the crater formed by the impact. But scientists remain puzzled about why the event did not seem to generate a visible plume of debris as expected.

As hundreds of telescopes and observers watched, the highly publicised NASA mission to search for water on the moon reached its grand finale at 0431 PDT (1131 GMT) with a pair of high-speed crashes into a lunar crater named Cabeus.

During the crucial moments at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California, scientists and engineers with LCROSS (Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite) peered in silent concentration as successive images of the crater grew larger on their screens.

Nearby, some 500 bleary-eyed visitors that had gathered overnight outside mission control were watching the same pictures on a giant outdoor screen.

Yet, immediately after the scheduled impact time, there was no obvious sign of the spectacular explosion that many were expecting. "Impacting into the moon is an unpredictable business at best," Anthony Colaprete, principal investigator for LCROSS, said in a post-impact briefing.

Colaprete did not offer definitive word as to why the visual camera apparently did not detect the event but added there were interesting changes in spectroscopic data taken by the spacecraft that might have been produced by a debris cloud. "I'm not convinced that the ejecta is not in the data yet," he said.

A worst-case scenario would have occurred if the rocket hit bedrock rather than loose, gravelly soil. In that case, the debris plume might not have reached the minimum 1.5-kilometre altitude needed to catch the sunlight and be seen by LCROSS.

Because of the angle of the crater, the plume would have needed to rise to 2.5 to 3 km in order to be seen by telescopes on Earth. A 10-km-high plume was expected.

The impact was monitored by the Hubble Space Telescope, which has not yet delivered its data. Several major observatories were also watching for signs of impact, including the Keck and Canada-France-Hawaii telescopes on Mauna Kea, neither of which saw a plume. One positive report came from Kitt Peak Observatory in Arizona, where a flash of visible light revealing the presence of sodium was recorded during the impact.

"I think we're all a little bit disappointed that we didn't see anything," David Morrison, director of NASA's Lunar Science Institute, told New Scientist.

Regardless of its ultimate scientific return, today's outcome will likely go down as one of the more bemusing episodes in NASA's long history of lunar missions. While the spacecraft appeared to be working as expected and in contact with mission controllers, it clearly did not deliver the views that scientists and spectators were hoping for.

Unlike a catastrophic failure, such as Mars Polar Lander in 1999, or a euphoric success, such as the spectacular 2005 collision of the Deep Impact mission with Comet Tempel 1, the non-detection seemed to leave officials unsure of how to react.

The big question that planetary scientists hope will be answered is: are there significant quantities of water ice on the moon? Last month, water was discovered in the lunar soil, but the amounts detected were relatively small.

A long standing mystery is whether dark craters such as Cabeus could act as cold traps, capturing water molecules that are liberated when comets strike the moon. Data from the Lunar Prospector mission, which flew in the late 1990s, indicate high concentrations of hydrogen in Cabeus. The hydrogen could belong to water ice mixed in with the rock and soil in the crater's depths.

LCROSS was designed to look for the signature of water and other molecules as it flew into the debris plume of the rocket impact. It should also have executed a sideways turn one minute prior to its own impact to see the molecular constituents of the impact backlit by the sun.

Without a plume to study, scientists will have less of a handle on the question but Colaprete says the spectroscopic data may be enough to spy the constituents of water. "It will probably take two weeks to get a yes or no answer on water," said Michael Bicay, director of science at Ames.

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